yesterday my sister presented, against the two stalker elders, a complaint before the district prosecutor.
the prosecutor said to my sister that in the country there are freedom of religion, so it is totally illegal to accuse a person loudly in the street before her neighbors , and to insist for going to a illegal judicial questioning.
she even showed to the prosecutor a past notification in which she asked to the elders a written document specifying the charge of apostasy so as to attend the judiciary meeting with her attorney.
This is great.....It would really be something if these elders were personally charged for their actions. If that happened, I'll bet they'd be on their own in terms of any legal help from the Society.
This could set some kind of legal precedent for other former JW's in the same situation as well as send a message to these Elders who think they own you and your future, that they'd better think twice and tread lightly from now on.
don't get here much anymore.
my mom, if you remember, really wanted to see her granddaughter before she died.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcpuj96a8lg.
How could anyone be so harsh as to ignore such a plea from their grandmother?
I fear the granddaughter's actions will haunt her more and more as she grows older herself and thinks back on this.
It's remarkable how your Mom was so sharp, right up to the end. No matter how old she is when it happens....it's always too soon, when it comes to loosing ones Mother.
i left the organization in 2011 and never look back.
i left behind my sister and her two daughters by mid 2015 both her daughters (both are in their early twenties) were disfellowshipped and left the organization.
she has decided to go to costa rica as a missionary (i guess that's what they are still calling them, unless that has changed, been gone so long i don't know if they came up with a new term for it).
It's called "serving where the need is more fun". Not many people go to Gnome Alaska or somewhere else in the frozen north where people live, yet few JW's around to spread the life saving news. It's typically places with sandy beaches that they head for.
I think now these folks have to finance themselves because of the "money issues" the Watchtower is having these days. Did she have a home to sell in this country? Most likely her money will go farther down there. She also could be hoping she'll be more "exotic" there being a foreigner and will find a husband who lives there and already has things set up.
this morning i stopped at dollar general to get a cheap container for waste paper.
it was 11:30 am and there were two jw literature trolleys parked near the store and manned by three jws, on old man in a rolling chair, a 30 something man, and 30 something woman.
as i walked by them i glanced at the their literature rack and proceeded into the store.. i was in the store for 20 minutes and made my purchase.
The pages of the RNWT are simply glued to the back. Actually this RNWT has the same binding that you would find in a trade paperback, which is not designed for the frequent use that a devout JW would put it through. So I can see the spine cracking and the pages falling out of these new Bibles after a year or two of frequent use.
Can't expect too much of a free Bible. I have to give them kudos for having Bibles that they can give away. Maybe they have a "base model" for giving away and save the upgraded ones for those who pick them up at the K.Hall. The guy you talked to sounds like he was on the ball, was pro-active and even had another translation of the Bible. Good for him, he might be a thinker and think himself right out of "the truth" one day.
just one week from the zone overseer's visit is the announcement that the magazine production by the australia branch will end in a few months.
the task being transferred to the japan branch.
while i'm not 100% certain, i understand that this effectively ends all major printing bar perhaps tracts, handbills and other loose items.
Quick....stop the presses and sell the Branch before the Australian Government seizes our assets over the pedophile scandal !!
one thing that really frustrates me inside is how quite a few jw's (especially my family) actually believe that demons like to inhabit second hand vases, or clothes etc.
my sister and mother are so bad with this that they wont even talk about it - because even talking about it "brings demons into your home".
so any attempt to show them that it's unscriptural is shut off with, sometimes them literally going "lalalalalalala im not listening".. i used to believe it myself (why wouldn't i?, i was told by my mother and father it was fact).. what i'd like to point out to anyone that would let me debunk it is this:.
The account in the Bible of the demons who were cast into a heard of swine and they all ran off a cliff, gives them license to say that if demons can inhabit swine they can inhabit anything.
Back in the day, it was common belief that demons were lurking inside inanimate objects and were waiting for unsuspecting JW's to come along so they could "demonize" them. As a kid during Halloween, I used to ask why our neighbors or the kids at school weren't demonized by the ghosts, ghouls and jack-o-lanterns they had as decorations on their houses and kept in their closets all year. I was told that Satan already has them in his clutches and wants to get us away from Jehovah and he is like a "roaring lion seeking to devour knowing he has little time left."
Magical thinking is part a parcel of the JW mindset. Living forever in paradise with lions that play with beach balls, the idea that Jehovah is watching them at all times and is sad when they miss a meeting and the entire world and an evil spirit enemy is plotting to get them makes them feel that they are the center of the universe because of their special religion .
jw's are constantly trying to prove they have the truth.
they always point to matthew 24:14 and say "who is accomplishing this work today?
this proves we have the truth and gods backing".. for those of us in this community looking from the other side what is one thing that proves to you that this organization does not have gods backing?
And yes, as another poster has said, the way they changed the Bible, they put Jehovah in the Greek scriptures where the word Lord is,
Can someone elaborate on this? This is a new one to me.
Thanks,
it is hard to teach that the earth is flat these day do to a more informed society, and now that we have entered the information age i see a whole new ball game is before a rather ignorant bunch of old farts called the governing body.
these guys are totally ignorant by choice and are trying desperately to keep their captive's ignorant for as long as possible.
the gb's internet apperances are all laughable to any sane individual and a total embarasement.
The GB's internet apperances are all laughable to any sane individual and a total embarasement. They can't let their light shine before men because they are really total idiot's who beleive in a fairy tale.All this info is bound to trickle down to the average JW. I mean the Governing Body are total idiots on public display this has to get to many JWs.
Many have said similar things about Donald Trump but look how far his campaign has gone so far and how many are supporting him.
The WT will be around for a long time to come but the hold they have on people will be different. We were kept in darkness but soon, (except for the children) it will be the individual JW's own fault if he chooses not to acknowledge the information that's out there.
abraham was part of the 9th generation as a descendent of shem.
yet, their lives overlapped by 150 years.
yep, they were of the same generation!
When it comes to overlapping generations, I wonder how do they explain Psalms 90:10
"The days of our years are seventy years; and if by reason of strength they are eighty years, yet is their strength labor and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away."
I can see how a person could consider someone born a few years before or after they were, as being part of their own generation. A 50 year old may think of a 55 year old as part of his own generation but these great overlaps of years where you and your grandfather are part of the same generation, don't make sense no matter how many times the Watchtower tries to explain it.
A lot of JW's go silent and their eyes glaze over when this topic comes up .
i am an 'active' jw but i do not agree with most of the doctrines inc blood, baptism, the memorial etc etc.i took the emblems at the memorial because i think we all should recognise and accept jesus' command to remember him.
not for one minute do i think this is only for the so called anointed.
i know it is full of man made error and that my fellow brothers and sisters are in a state of mindless, spiritual unawareness.
So why am I still attending? Because I love God and I believe in Jesus' message to tell others of his kingdom which is coming. I don't preach the JW message and falsehoods when calling on people.
I completely understand this line of thinking and in the past wondered about doing this myself. Then I thought, if I do find interest at the door, where would I take them...why would I bring them to the Kingdom Hall if I don't really agree with a lot of important beliefs....how would I explain this to them especially during the Memorial while I was munching away on unleavend bread when the speaker just said it was only for the annointed ones? And what happens when the interested one becomes a JW and dies due to the blood issue....something I don't believe is correct. Would I be sort of responsible?
